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It's Bullseye. I'm Jesse Thorne. My first guest this week is Fat Joe. You probably know him as the rapper behind hits like What's Love and all the way up.

He's my guest on this episode. I could read more of Fat Joe's credits, his work with Jennifer

Lopez or Jaw Rule or how he helped launch the careers of Big Pun, DJ Khalid, and Remy Ma.

Instead, I'll tell you about what happened before we hit Record.

We connected with Joe from a studio in New York.

We turned on our cameras. We exchanged a couple of quick pleasantries. Then Joe got right down to business. He asked, hey Jesse, are you

rewinding it? You don't know what that means? I didn't know it first either. It turns out

Rewind at 10 is Fat Joe's signature line of

beard dye products. I mean, I have a beard, and there's a little gray coming in there on the edges.

So I think he figured I was basically his target market. And that's who Fat Joe is. He's a hustler, a charmer,

a guy who radiates confidence. If you want to hear some meandering, naval gazing double

LP about love in the human condition, you're going to want to buy somebody else's record.

But if you want

a banger for the club, call Fat Joe. That's where the charisma is. Joe is now in his mid-50s. He's a

family man. He's been married 30 years. He's deeply involved in various causes. He's raised money

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