When was the last time you had space to feel?

With the National Trust, you might just find life standing still under towering trees.

Maybe you'll find connection among the stories of the past,

or a moment to disconnect from it all on a mountainside.

Whatever you're feeling, wherever you are, with the

National Trust, you can make space to feel. If the body really matters and the spirit also

really matters, and the two cannot be separated, It seems to me we need a sacramental

theology. If you had 60 seconds to convert me to Catholicism, what's your elevator pitch?

I would go to, for a lot of people, I'd go to sacrament. I would go to antiquity the way that

the church fathers spoke about the Catholic Church, or the way that St.

Augustine a little later says Rome has spoken, the matter is settled. What I would point to is the

Nicene Creed. Let's talk about fasting. Yes. What do you think?

What do you think? From collapsing sleep and hormone health to dopamine overload to young people feeling lost and numb

and desperate for purpose, we are clearly in a spiritual war. And today I'm joined by Michael

Knowles for a wide-ranging, honest discussion about what modern technology is doing to our minds,

our masculinity, our femininity, and we're going to also talk about how our mental health is connected to our spiritual health and even connected to politics and beyond. Michael, welcome the show. Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. Well, I'm so excited. Well, you know, I'm excited to dive into things regarding health and faith and so many of the other things I know that you're an expert in. And one of the things I've really appreciated, I've watched a lot of your content over the years and been so oppressed with your, just breadth of knowledge, especially topics like philosophy. I've really, you know, and just in religion, I know you're really well studied on some of these topics. But one of the other things I want to get in today and maybe even start the show off with is talking a little bit about our faith. And I just shared this with you a few minutes ago. I grew up with a family that was half Catholic, half Protestant. And my mom who is Protestant, my grandmother, who is Catholic. I mean, there were some real doles going on. I mean, moms and grandma's just on anything can really butt heads. That's a big one.

Oh, yeah.

So in prayer, would never miss a mass, never miss confession. And my mom was the same way. My mom was so devout in their faith. And so they had their disagreements.

At the same time, I am so grateful for it because I think it really helped me develop and grow spiritually and really appreciate both the Protestant viewpoints, the Catholic viewpoints.

And one of the things I've noticed, and I'd love to get your take on this, I feel like when I was growing up, there was a greater separation and maybe even this, to a point, even unhealthy rivalry between the Catholic Church and the Protestant Church.

And I feel like maybe a younger generation, like I personally care a lot less if somebody's Catholic or Presbyterian or charismatic.

I care a lot more about, hey, the person's

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