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Now & Then

Fascism: Meanings and Methods

Now & Then

Vox Media Podcast Network

History, Society & Culture, News Commentary, News

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The term 'fascism' is often invoked these days from voices on both the Left and the Right. Heather and Joanne start by defining the term and and have a conversation firmly rooted in history, from the proto-fascism of Southern enslavement, to the fascist playbooks established by Mussolini and Hitler, to the current risks for the normalization of fascist ideology and tropes in the United States. Join CAFE Insider to listen to “Backstage,” where Heather and Joanne chat each week about the anecdotes and ideas that formed the episode. Head to: cafe.com/history For more historical analysis of current events, sign up for the free weekly CAFE Brief newsletter, featuring Time Machine, a weekly article that dives into an historical event inspired by each episode of Now & Then: cafe.com/brief For references & supplemental materials, head to: cafe.com/now-and-then/fascism-meanings-and-methods/ Now & Then is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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From Cafe and the Box Media Podcast Network, this is now and then.

1:00.0

I'm Heather Cox Richardson and I'm Joanne Freeman.

1:03.2

Today we're going to talk about a topic that in some ways has been in the news and in the

1:09.4

public forum a lot in recent months and I suppose even years but not in a way that really

1:17.2

makes a lot of sense.

1:18.8

And by that I mean fascism.

1:22.1

There are so many words that get tossed back and forth in political argument these days.

1:28.4

And obviously we talked in the past about critical race theories, having kind of a buzzword

1:33.0

component to it.

1:34.9

Fascism is another one.

1:36.4

Locke is another one, communism, socialism, they're all of these words that get thrown

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