What's up y'all? Welcome to Straight White American Jesus. I'm Brad Onishi, faculty at the University of San Francisco.

Today we're continuing our series, Fascism is our new normal. It's not a cheery topic, but it is one I think is important.

Before we get going today, let me just tell you about a couple things. One, we have a new series running from Access Moondy Media. Access Moondy Media is a research based podcast network that we at Straight White American Jesus have launched.

This month we are running on God's campus. It's a show that chronicles the ways that religious universities have marginalized students over time despite receiving taxpayer funded money.

So what that means is taxpayer funded money is going to institutions that historically have not allowed black students or today will not allow gay or non-binary or trans students on their campuses as students or will expel them because of their parents or so on and so forth.

So it's a deep dive. It's made by the great folks at the religious exemption accountability project. You should check it out if you're interested in the histories that go from Bob Jones in the 1960s all the way to the present.

If you want to hear about title 9, if you want to hear about class action lawsuits, if you want to hear from students who are fighting back, check out the series.

The next thing is we have our October recommended book list. You can check that out in the show notes. We have a couple of great titles. Some of them you'll have heard about others not.

One of them is when religion hurts you by our friend Laura Anderson. It's all about religious trauma and healing from it. Another is about Ronald Reagan's evangelical vision for America in the 1980s. Another is about the history of the NRA.

So check those out and as always check out our merch as well. All right. Let's get into it.

All right, also last week I talked about fascism as our new normal and I use Hannah R. N's idea of the banality of evil to discuss someone like great gutfield who's on Fox.

And some other figures who are kind of in the ether as talking heads on the American right and I want to continue that today and I want to kind of continue to go upstream.

So we started this series with some comments made by Donald Trump about executing his political enemies or his political opponents or General Millie or anyone else.

And it really prompted this idea that we have just normalized fascism. Well, last week I talked about the very ordinary people who are propagating fascist ideas on the American right.

And today I want to go upstream a little bit. So if gutfield is talking head on Fox, I want to go to some of the people who are considered intellectuals on the American right and kind of provide a look up stream.

Right. If you think about, you know, a swimming hole in your, you're in the summertime and you're swimming. There's a little waterfall or a stream or something.

You know, if you go upstream to the source, you start to see where the water is coming from. Is it a spring? Is it a natural source? Whatever is it melting snow? Whatever.

Well, I want to go upstream a little bit to members of the American right who are really filtering some of these ideas downward to the talking heads like gutfield and others.

And a lot of this starts at the Claremont Institute. Now you might be familiar with the Claremont Institute as a think tank, a right wing think tank.

It's been in the news a lot because of John Eastman. John Eastman is, of course, the lawyer who really helped Trump and his administration construct the idea of using January six, the certification of the election.

And Mike Pence and the fake electors and all of that to keep a Trump in power. Now Eastman is now under fire. He's indicted the whole thing. He's in a lot of legal trouble.

He's, he was a law professor at Chapman University, which is about 10 minutes from my group in Orange County. The Claremont Institute is where Eastman is affiliated Eastman is not a lone figure there. It's not like he was rogue and they're just now embarrassed.

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