Hello again, I'm Armin Alney. The late U.S. Senator John McCain called the United States the world's greatest nation. Because of its ideals, he never said it was perfect.

Americans may be shocked to learn that the Ku Klux Klan and Jim Crow laws passed by southern states after the Reconstruction inspired

Adolf Hitler.

For many Americans, that history has been forgotten, replaced by mythology about a past

that never happened.

Jason Stanley says, it's time to remember.

He says America's fascist tendencies have not gone away, and President

Trump has made them a clear and present danger. Stanley is a professor of philosophy at Yale. He's a

prolific author and frequent contributor to the New York Times and other publications. Thanks for

being on our podcast. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

You got a new book called How Fascism Works, the Politics of Us Against Them. It's about the resurgence of fascism around the world and how America's own fascist tendencies have not gone away.

But I want to ask you first about a warning.

It really touched me personally.

Earlier this year, I went to Berlin for the first time,

and I visited Sachsenhausen.

That's a few miles out of town.

It's an enormous place, one of the concentration camps

where the Nazis imprisoned, abused, and murdered Jews and other people they regarded as inferior.

Now, in 1937, it was still being kept secret, but your Jewish grandmother found out about it and risked her life to help people escape. Tell us more.

Sure. She would dress up as a Nazi social worker and her chauffeur would drive her to Zoxenhausen.

Each time, she would enter through those gates if she had been recognized and she was a prominent

Jewish citizen in Berlin, if she'd been recognized and she was a prominent Jewish citizen in Berlin,

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