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Fascism Expert Sounds Alarm as Trump Secretly Builds His Hiding Place While He Collapses

IHIP News

Jennifer Welch & Angie Sullivan

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4.84.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Friend of the show Ruth Ben-Ghiat joins us to discuss what Trump's inevitable refusal to leave office will look like.


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All right, joining me today on IHIP News is my friend and absolute expert in exactly

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what is happening right now.

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Her name is Ruth Ben-Giott and she is the best-selling author of Strongman and she has an amazing,

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amazing substack called Lucid.

0:21.3

Ruth, welcome to IHIPP News.

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Welcome back.

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Thank you.

0:24.7

So pleased to be here with you.

0:26.1

You're one of our audiences' favorites.

0:28.4

I think you and I went to dinner a couple of weeks ago and I was telling you, I think there's

0:32.0

a desire among the public right now as we see this regime attack science, attack facts, attack knowledge.

0:40.4

There's a desire from the electorate to learn.

0:43.3

And so thank you so much for making yourself available.

0:46.5

Right now, Trump's approval rating is hitting around 32%.

0:50.3

What happens to an autocrat when they become this unpopular and what happens to all of those surrounding him when they are, you know, it looks like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?

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Yeah.

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So you've hit on, so one of the things is they never take responsibility for their actions. And they have, by this time, many

1:15.1

autocrats have bought into this propaganda that they are infallible, that they can do no wrong.

1:22.0

And so they will never say they're sorry or admit failure or blame. So what's better?

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You throw other people under the bus.

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So most autocrats are constantly reshuffling their governments.

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It's really crazy.

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