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🗓️ 20 November 2025
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Fareed Zakaria joins the show to discuss The Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present, arguing that the past 30 years of globalization, AI, and cultural upheaval rival the Industrial Revolutions in their political consequences. He makes the case that today's populist surges—from Sweden to the U.S.—are driven less by economics than by immigration-fueled cultural anxiety, and that Democrats' failure to manage the border gave Trump his strongest 2.0 issue. Plus: the top of the show digs into the Federal Government's error-riddled Texas redistricting defense—complete with "sh*ts and gingles."
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| 0:00.0 | It's Thursday, November 20th, 2025. |
| 0:06.9 | From Peachfish Productions, it's the gist. |
| 0:09.2 | I'm Mike Peska. |
| 0:10.3 | The theme at the top of yesterday's show was that cruelty might not be the point. |
| 0:15.4 | Incompetence might be the modus operandi. |
| 0:18.5 | To make a fine point on this point, lack of attention to detail is the |
| 0:23.5 | mode. It might also be the median and the mean of this very mean, cruel government. I direct you to |
| 0:30.6 | the recent ruling by a federal court that Texas's redistricting plan is unconstitutional. |
| 0:37.8 | I do not know how this will all end. |
| 0:40.3 | I do know the first court to look at the preliminary redistricting plan said, nope, it violates the law, especially the components of the law that guarded against racist, racial, specific redistricting. |
| 0:55.2 | Some context is a two one decision. |
| 0:57.3 | It might be eventually decided on by the Supreme Court. |
| 1:00.4 | The justice that gets the first crack at it, because it's his job to overlook Texas, is |
| 1:05.1 | Samuel Alito. |
| 1:06.3 | This all does not bode well or does not bode permanent, let us say, for this ruling. But it is a |
| 1:12.5 | 2-1 ruling. And right now, Texas, all of their redistricting, which prompted California to |
| 1:19.0 | redistrict. That's all up in the air, if not, as of this moment, not allowed. But I looked at |
| 1:25.5 | Jeffrey V. Brown, a Trump appointee, who was part of the two, of the |
| 1:29.8 | two one. I looked at his decision. And he wrote, he focused on a letter that the federal government |
| 1:36.8 | sent to Governor Abbott. And he said that this letter from Hermit Dillon was so bad, offered such poor guidance |
| 1:47.4 | that it was his explanation for not just his ruling, but why Texas went down the path they did. |
| 1:54.2 | He said that the letter contained so many factual, legal, and typographical errors that it was challenging to unpack |
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