Fantasy Baseball in November?! Draft-and-Hold Strategy w/JH Schroeder
Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
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4.7 • 873 Ratings
🗓️ 22 November 2024
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Eno and DVR are joined by John Henry Schroeder to discuss draft-and-hold formats -- fantasy baseball leagues with no in-season pickups -- and how to approach those leagues in a way that is different than a typical February or March draft. They cover roster construction goals (and a few pitfalls to avoid), the unique risk of low WAR players in this format, playing time trends relative to draft position in 2024, and a few projections that they will likely disagree within heading into 2025.
Rundown
1:38 JH’s Path Into High Stakes Fantasy Baseball
3:34 Draft-and-Hold (Draft Champions) & Gladiator Leagues
5:19 Why Draft This Early?
7:22 A Critical Roster Construction Mistake To Avoid
15:17 How Important is Categorical Balance without In-Season Pickups?
23:01 The Risk with Low WAR Players
29:16 Low WAR Players We’re Still Interested In
34:15 Playing Time v. Draft Position
41:57 What Outside the Box Idea Flopped the Most?
49:54 Ideal Roster Balance w/50-Round Draft-and-Hold Builds
52:51 Other 2025 Projections You Will Disagree With
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Rates and barrels. |
| 0:13.9 | It is Friday, November 22nd. |
| 0:16.6 | Derek Van Riper, Eno Seris, and a good friend of ours, John Henry Strader joins the show today. |
| 0:22.4 | Today, we are focusing on draft and hold leagues, leagues with no in-season pickups. |
| 0:29.0 | Over at the NFBC, we get the draft champions format we'll talk about. |
| 0:32.3 | They've got gladiator leagues running right now, and our buddy, J.H. |
| 0:36.1 | is as deep into those leagues as anybody we know, but he also plays everything else. So we thought he'd be a great resource for us to talk to about what's really different. What do you do tactically in the league that does not have in-season pickups? J.H., thanks for joining us today. Glad to be here, guys. |
| 0:54.6 | A lot of fun. So, J.H. has been a friend of ours for a few years now, and we actually co-managed some teams. Eno has talked about having a co-manager in the NFBC main event. This is J.H. He is the co-manager. We've co-managed some teams in the online championship as well. so we all know each other pretty well tactically have a lot of, I think, general agreements of how we want to play fantasy baseball. |
| 1:16.9 | And I have found J.H. is even more rigorous at Fab than I've ever been by a few miles. |
| 1:22.9 | So I learn a lot from him, which is great. |
| 1:25.4 | I think that's a good part of a partnership is if you can learn something with the person along the way that adds a ton of value. J.H., what's your relationship with baseball, though? How long have you played fantasy baseball? What formats do you like the most? Just tell the listeners a little bit more about your background and kind of how did you get to this point where this hobby is such a big part of your life? I probably have a similar story to a lot of people our age. |
| 1:47.0 | Red Moneyball sort of right when it came out, loved it. |
| 1:50.0 | I did my first Yahoo League in, I think 2004, freshman year at college. |
| 1:54.3 | And it was just sort of hooked from there. |
| 1:56.7 | I really wanted to work in baseball. |
| 1:58.9 | I actually did sort of work in and around it for a few years. |
| 2:02.4 | I worked for a large agency in Chicago. We represented about 400 players. It did mostly arbitration |
| 2:09.3 | work for them. I was a video guy at Sports Info Solutions, which anyone who's worked there knows |
| 2:16.0 | that's sort of a grinding job, but you're, you know, |
| 2:18.6 | you're working with baseball every day. And then sort of probably the coolest thing I did is I worked |
| 2:23.0 | in player development from Dodgers for a year, basically as a minor league video guy. I was also |
| 2:29.8 | a lot of fun. I was very heavy into Yahoo Leagues for a long time and sort of just getting tired of |
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