I very distinctly heard three gunshots bring out.

My brain processed so much in such a fraction of a second.

Picked up my two youngest boys, one under each arm.

Picked them up so fast that I literally pulled one of them out of their shoes.

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welcome back to the Active Cell Protection podcast. I am your host, Mike Williver, and I remain

your favorite former Fed, whether you like it or not.

With us today, Phil Buckles, he is from Albert Kirk in New Mexico.

He is married with three young kids.

And he is a busy man.

He owns and runs two companies.

One is an accounting business.

That is his stock and trade.

And also a company called Bosque Tactical, B-O-S-Q-U-E Tactical, and they offer all sorts of high-speed training there in Albuquerque. Phil, thanks so much for coming on. How are you, sir? I'm doing great. Thanks Mike for having me. It's an honor to be here. Well, it's my pleasure. You know, without folks like you reaching out with your stories, and once again, I'll tell the listeners in your email, you're like, I didn't think this story was really

worth telling until I heard another episode of the podcast. And that's what I'm hoping people will

realize is that we have everything from fatal shootings, machine guns pointed at cops to someone,

you know, almost pulled their gun at a dog park. Like that that's, that's the range that we have. So, uh, if you think your story is remotely worth telling, hit me up, Mike at active self-protection.com and let's talk about it. So talk to us about your self-defense background. You told me before we started here, you, you're an accountant by trade. So at some point, you went from being an accountant

by trade to moving into the firearms instruction world. So when did that start for you?

Yeah. So, I mean, I always grew up around guns. My stepdad was a cop. He was an investigator

for the county we lived in. I'm from the Minneapolis area originally. So he was a

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