I'm Lee Rowland. From the ACLU, this is At Liberty, the podcast where we discuss today's

most pressing civil rights and civil liberties issues. Today, the latest update on family

separation.

It's been more than a month since a federal court ordered the Trump administration to reunite immigrant children and parents it had separated at the U.S. border.

Hundreds of children still remain on their own in government custody.

Many of their parents have already their own in government custody, many of their parents have

already been deported. Now, a group of advocates and attorneys are leading the effort to track

down these parents abroad and give them legal counsel. Helping to lead this extraordinary work

is Lee Galernt, deputy director of the ACLU's Immigrants Rights

Project and attorney for the separated families. He's just returned from a trip to Guatemala

to find some of the parents whose children are still being held in the U.S. Lee, thank you so much

for coming back to update us on this fight for family reunification.

Thank you for continuing to follow this story.

So why don't we just start by asking you about your trip to Guatemala?

What did you see down there?

What we saw was that the parents are in bad shape and just how difficult it is for people on the ground, for human rights defenders who were working with to locate these parents and talk to them.

I think there's two issues.

One is finding all the parents, and that's understandably received the most attention,

and we can talk about just how difficult it is to find all the parents. But the other issue

that's received less attention, but I think is equally important, is once we find them,

we need to advise them of their rights. And that's very difficult

because we need to build trust with them. They don't know us. And the options they have are complicated

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