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I am a descendant of those who were enslaved. My people survived that system. The least I

can do is speak their names now. At the very least.

Hey y'all and welcome to Unladylike. I'm Caroline. I'm Kristen and that descendant you just

heard is Morgan Jirkins. She's talking to us today about her book Wandering in Strange

Lands, a daughter of the Great Migration reclaims her roots. And Caroline, you led this conversation

with Morgan because digging up family history is one of your favorite things.

Yeah. I mean, I'm obsessed with genealogy. It's fair to say. I've been researching my

family's history for over a decade. I've taken all the DNA tests. I've shelled out literally

thousands of dollars in ancestry.com membership fees at this point. And delightfully, I have

swapped emails with dozens of elderly distant cousins in far away states over all these

years. Okay. Listeners, the fact that Caroline just said delightfully, I mean, this is

one of my favorite things about Caroline because what is what is so delightful about it?

Oh, I mean, listen, I, I love connecting with people over over history. You know, like

I love a history book, but there is nothing that connects you to the events of the past

as immediately and as intimately as studying your family tree, studying the existence

of a person who helps turn an abstract concept into something concrete. So for instance, you

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