But it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl. I the world of a man.

Oh yeah

And he's lost lost in bitterness

And that song is so much more powerful when it's not sung by James Brown. This... This is hell.

Hell.

Oke-Doke.

Live from the United States where the law is far too often the crime.

This is hell.

Child welfare sounds like it's full of benevolence, well meaning, and full of kindness towards children

with only the child's best interests in mind and at heart.

Family services also have the ring of doing something good for others, providing help and assistance to fulfill a household's basic needs and ensure its stability.

But as our next guest argues, rather than offering benevolence, today's child protective services and family welfare agencies,

along with armed police, impose not benevolence, but a benevolent terror in a few minutes. We will

be speaking with Dorothy Roberts, author of Torn Apart, how the child

welfare system destroys black families and how abolition can build a safer world.

Dorothy argues we should stop calling this brutal regime by its benevolent titles,

child welfare system, child protective services, foster care,

the mission of child protection services agencies is not to care for children or protect their welfare.

Rather, they respond inadequately and inhumanely

to the effects of our society's abysmal

failure to care enough about children's welfare.

Sure, abuse of children and the demolition of families has finally made the news when it comes to indigenous boarding schools and the horrors at the U.S. border with Mexico and that's

...