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🗓️ 24 September 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, and we're back. It's a deep dive. We're going deeper. We're going deeper on this AG. I am quite |
| 0:07.1 | literally trying to rest my back, my like ruined lower back stuff by sitting in a somewhat beneficial position on the bed in my hotel room here in London. I have a guest actually on route |
| 0:23.5 | to record an episode, so I need to spackle myself together. But before I do that, there are a couple |
| 0:29.9 | things about Miami that I absolutely must unpack. So, Martina sucks, right? I mean, I obviously have been bewildered and |
| 0:43.2 | horrified by her in real time on social, but her description of, or her like, not mocking, but just kind of coldness when Julia's talking about her estranged from her daughters was really almost unnerving to see her inability to understand their experiences, essentially scoffing at the fact that Julia had been |
| 1:13.7 | estranged from her kids. And the fact that Julia's daughter said, the understanding the adoption |
| 1:21.3 | process would have been, and accepting it, would have been easier for them had her daughters had it happened while her |
| 1:30.4 | daughters were living there too honestly did make sense to me it felt like these are two you know |
| 1:37.4 | young women i forget how old julia's daughters are who are really struggling to process this |
| 1:43.2 | huge change to feel like the fact that it's like |
| 1:45.7 | entirely out of their hands and control, they don't have enough information about it. |
| 1:49.8 | They weren't looped into a part of the process. |
| 1:51.8 | So you're feeling isolated, disrespected, maybe scared and also absolutely pissed. |
| 1:58.3 | And Martinez just, there's no other word I can think of aside from mocking. |
| 2:04.7 | Like, she just felt so especially cold about it. And it made me just feel super frustrated that she can't step outside of herself to empathize with the position that the kids were in. |
| 2:19.9 | And this is like maybe super dark. And I know it's been acknowledged previously, but Julia and |
| 2:27.0 | Martina, I mean, Julia's in her, I actually genuinely don't know how Julia's, maybe like mid or late 50s. |
| 2:34.1 | Martinez, like, I hope that they have long and healthy lives with their now adopted |
| 2:42.5 | sons, but to really be sort of craven about Julia's daughter's frustration. Like, could there be an element of |
| 2:54.1 | this, of her kids feeling like I wasn't a part of the process? I feel disrespected. And also, |
| 2:59.4 | what happens if, God forbid, God forbid, something happens to you both who is responsible for |
| 3:05.9 | caregiving, for parenting these children, and really genuinely not |
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