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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Thursday, May 12th. I'm Dorothy Wickendon, executive editor of The New Yorker writers and editors about politics. It's Thursday, May 12th.

I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker. Let's talk about family values.

Here's an early ad from Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Then as First Lady, she helped get health care for 8 million kids. You probably know the rest.

The senator who made sure the heroes and families of 9-11 got the care they needed.

The Secretary of State who joined the cabinet of the man who defeated her,

because when your president calls, you serve.

And now a new title, Grandma.

I believe that when families are strong, America is strong.

Benjamin Wallace Wells joins me to discuss the rapidly changing politics on this issue.

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Hey, Dorothy.

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