Family Estrangement, Spiritual Harm & the Ethics of AI in Therapy with Matthias Barker (255)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Ann and Sue, alongside psychotherapist Matthias Barker, unpack the complexities of parent-child estrangement and the often-overlooked generational gaps that shape how families navigate conflict. Matthias discusses the deep wounds that spiritual harm can leave behind, and also expands into broader themes of spirituality. With the emerging presence of AI, they open the conversation to the ethical challenges of the technology and creating meaningful change, whether in family dynamics or the future of mental health care.

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0:00.0	I think that on the other side, it's not just like how do you set a firm boundary so that someone
0:08.4	doesn't tread on your territory.
0:10.8	It's how do I reach out to you in a way that you'll listen?
0:14.2	How do I say something in a way that you can hear it?
0:16.8	And I don't know, parents are like all humans.
0:19.5	When we feel heard, then we're willing to hear.
0:22.6	And that just feels like such an impossible task for someone who's been through complex trauma.
0:26.6	Like what?
0:27.6	I'm supposed to like give you all this empathy for your drinking and how much pain you were in,
0:31.6	how you weren't trying to hurt me.
0:32.6	You were just in a bunch of da da da da da da.
0:34.6	Like, sorry, bud, like, I'm just not going to placate to all that.
0:39.3	And what I tell folks and what I think I tell myself in the mirror is that is evidence of my hurt.
0:47.1	That is evidence of my hurt. And I have a responsibility to heal that for myself.
0:55.4	Welcome to Therapist Uncensored.
0:57.6	Building on decades of professional experience,
0:59.9	this podcast tackles neurobiology, modern attachment, and more,
1:03.8	in an honest way that's helpful in healing humans.
1:06.5	Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.
1:16.7	Music Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Therapist Uncensored. So you guys are in for a real treat in today's episode.
1:23.0	Sue and I got a chance to sit down and have an extremely engaging conversation with Matthias Barker.
1:30.4	Many of you may know him already.
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