We've got to start to be charitable and be able to talk in favorable ways about people we disagree with.

And we are spectacularly failing.

And we're going to have to have courage to start calling people out.

Welcome to Family Life Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Shelby Abbott, and your hosts are David and Ann Wilson.

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This is Family Life Today.

Thank you. is family life today. So we got Timmy Hoff, Sean McDowell back in the studio talking about ending the stalemate,

having meaningful conversations with people that we have different opinions with.

And again, you can look them up.

Their bios are long and weighty.

They're both professors and doctors. They teach students every single day.

We need to come here and we're often, Sean. Oh, man, I'm feeling the last.

You know, we don't get to say this every day about our guests. But man, oh man, I feel like

we're in the presence of royalty. And they both have great podcasts too. Yeah. I feel like we're in the presence of royalty. And they both have great podcasts, too.

Yeah.

Tell us the name of your podcast.

Mine is called the Tim Milhoff can change your life podcast.

Yeah, that's it.

We have two listeners.

My wife, no.

Tell your wife, not listening.

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