Families: Searching for Safety Outside the U.S.
TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones
TransLash Media
4.3 • 619 Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Across the United States, anti-trans laws and rising hostility have forced some families into a heartwrenching decision: leaving their homes behind to keep their children safe. In the newest episode of our ongoing “Families” series, Imara speaks with parents and advocates Lizette and Jose Trujillo about their journey relocating outside the country with their trans son. They share the grief and hope of starting over, the challenges of leaving family and community behind in Arizona, and how they knew when it was time to go.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey fam, it's me, Amara. |
| 0:09.1 | Welcome to the TransLash podcast, a show where we tell trans stories to save trans lives. |
| 0:15.0 | Well, there are a few trans people who are facing the brunt of the current administration like trans kids and their families. |
| 0:22.4 | From sports bans to threats on gender affirming care, to renewed hostility in schools, |
| 0:28.6 | to the fact that having a trans kid and loving them can be the basis of changing custody in |
| 0:33.0 | certain states, the families of trans kids are facing pressure like never before. Now, of course, there has |
| 0:40.6 | been increased pressure across the last several years because of what's been going on in the states, |
| 0:46.5 | but now they are facing a series of invigorated assaults by the federal government, which we have |
| 0:52.5 | enumerated on this show from the beginning. |
| 0:55.6 | Now, with that, the families of trans kids are figuring out the best way to respond. |
| 1:01.0 | And some of them are deciding that with this kind of panoply of attacks on them, |
| 1:06.7 | that a solution is to leave the country. |
| 1:10.0 | That's why I wanted to talk today with prominent advocates, |
| 1:13.5 | Lizette and Jose Trujillo, |
| 1:15.3 | about their heart-wrenching decision to leave the United States |
| 1:18.6 | in order to protect their son and to do what's best for their family. |
| 1:24.5 | Being abroad does it mean we're out of the fray? |
| 1:29.5 | Being abroad means we have space to think about how we effectively support the organizing that's happening in the United States |
| 1:35.2 | and how we bring that information to communities who don't realize it's coming their way. |
| 1:42.2 | But before we get into this very sobering conversation, |
| 1:45.8 | we're going to start out as always, even now, with some trans joy. |
| 1:49.9 | Yeah. It can be easy to start believing that all of the anti-trans legislation and rhetoric means that the United States and especially conservative areas are wholly inhospitable to trans life. |
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