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Welcome to the athletic football show.

I'm Robert Mays.

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Joining me today, it is my good friend, Nate Tice.

Nate, how you doing, buddy?

I'm doing well.

I was like a changeup for me.

It's a change up for me, too, man. I am the most inflexible person of all time when it comes to this stuff.

So it's, we're really starting off with the bang today but you should absolutely go check out the new york times audio app absolutely should no it was a i'm so used to like there's that flow it was like you know in alley up like i know when to jump i know when to jump and dunk it on home usually i miss with the intros because I take so long on them.

But that one like threw me off.

I was already in the air.

The ball hadn't been released yet.

So I was still waiting on it. But overall, doing fantastic.

Another great show.

I'm excited for this.

Also,

I'm wearing my like new de facto podcasting outfit, which is a Nike yoga sweatshirt, which is incredibly comfortable.

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