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You're listening to The Derbacterys, a production of Duck Tape Then Beer,

with additional support from Kuat Racks because you love your bike,

athletic greens, the daily drink for a healthier you, and kicking horse coffee, wake up and kick ass.

All right, you said you had a question for me.

I did have a question for you. Have you ever had an experience where you thought you were

through the hardest part of something, but you were wrong. Like it actually hadn't even started.

You mean like last year? I have.

Yeah, totally. It's funny that this week or like in the next few days, I think it will

have been a year exactly since there was that, for us it was like a Wednesday afternoon.

When we found out the kids would need to come home from school.

And like I just have that such a clear memory of being out like on a beautiful spring day.

Because like last spring, I mean thank God during that, during that first closure,

like the weather was at least pretty wonderful for Seattle.

And I just remember being out in the warm sun, talking to our good friend, our next door neighbor.

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