Called it.

You got a collard.

We got a collard on the line here.

Yes, what's going on, everybody?

Welcome to Canary Cry Clubhouse, your weekly respite.

A time of fellowship, a time of exploring, I don't know, things that are not part of the news, not part of current events, and not part of your Sunday morning service, probably.

I mean, who knows?

Unless you go to a really cool, really cool

church, which do exist out there. I think more and more the church is catching up to,

I don't know, cool stuff going on. It is interesting to see how the medium of podcasting has

wormed its way into importance in places like politics, economics, you know, the election.

This was the podcast election.

Podcasters used to be weirdos on the internet who had nothing better to do.

And now we see them as sort of the new masters of

information or entertainment or whatever.

And we're seeing this, like I said, in politics most drastically.

But I wonder, I wonder very much how the medium of podcasting and specifically independent podcasters are affecting things like the church.

Like the organization of the church, you know, are, I'm assuming that active senior pastors

out there are listening to podcasters. I often see popular pastoral online figures,

who I assume are pastors of churches, going on some big podcasts like Joe Rogan, et cetera.

That's very interesting.

I've not seen a breakdown.

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