Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, a radio broadcasting ministry of the James

Dobson Family Institute. I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Well, welcome to Family Talk, the broadcast ministry of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Roger Marsh, wishing you a happy Independence Day.

You know, many people wonder what does it mean to truly love our country?

Well, today here on Family Talk, we are continuing Dr. James Dobson's compelling conversation

with former Senator and Congressman

Jim DeMint about his book called Falling in Love with America Again.

The Honorable Mr. DeMint served South Carolina both in the House and Senate before leading

the Heritage Foundation for a five-year period.

His insights reveal how government has grown too big and too powerful, while institutions

Americans actually trust, you know, like small businesses, churches, local police, will

they remain smaller and much closer to home? So let's get into this special edition,

part two of Dr. Dobson's conversation with Senator Jim DeMint on today's edition of Dr. James

Dobson's Family Talk.

Senator, I thoroughly enjoyed talking to you yesterday, and again, I am enamored with this book, Falling in Love with America Again.

The way I look at it, Dr. Dobson, is I think God has given this beautiful garden that we call America.

We're stewards of that garden, and we don't really have the option to leave the governance or the caretaking of that garden to somebody else.

It's our job, we the people,

and that's what I'm encouraging people to do. Well, at the end of the program last time, we talked

about the concept of the big or the bigs. I think in the NBA, they call it the bigs. These are

the really tall guys that stand under the basket. You're talking

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