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This season will be further exploring each topic, hanging out with experts and enthusiasts

of all kinds, for more strange stories, social commentary, and the myths that make America

tick. I'm your host, Chelsea Weber-Smith.

Today we're talking to Jason Stanley, professor of philosophy at Yale University in the author

of the New York Times best-selling book How Fascism Works.

Patriarchal masculinity sets up men with the expectation that society will allow them

the role of sole protectors and providers of their families. In times of extreme economic

anxiety, men already made anxious by a perceived loss of status resulting from increasing

gender equality can easily be thrust into panic by demagoguery directed against minorities.

Here fascist politics intentionally distorts the source of anxiety. A fascist politician

has no intention of addressing the root causes of economic hardship.

Fascist politics distorts male anxiety heightened by economic anxiety into fear that one's family

is under existential threat from those who reject its structure and traditions.

Thank you so much, Jason, for coming on the show. It's truly an honor.

Thanks so much, Chelsea. It's a terrific program and podcast you have, a vital task you're

doing.

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