Falling Behind: Where have all the men gone?
On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti
WBUR
4.3 • 3.9K Ratings
🗓️ 28 August 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
After decades of decline, male teachers now make up less than a quarter of the public-school teaching force. What’s driving men away, and what would it take to bring them back? On Point’s weeklong series exploring boys and education continues.
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| 0:00.0 | Support for this podcast comes from Is Business Broken, |
| 0:03.5 | a podcast from the Mayrotra Institute at BU Questrum School of Business |
| 0:07.6 | that asks the thorny questions necessary for this moment. |
| 0:11.6 | Follow Is Business Broken and stay tuned for new episodes this fall. |
| 0:17.0 | WBUR Podcasts, Boston. |
| 0:31.4 | When a lot of people find out, oh, you're a kindergarten teacher, they are shocked. |
| 0:34.2 | They would never seem a guy would be teaching kindergarten. |
| 0:38.9 | You can't really blame them for being shocked, right? In the United States, |
| 0:47.8 | 97% of all kindergarten teachers are women, a mere 3% are men. Anywhere else, that kind of gender lopsidedness in the workplace would trigger civil rights complaints or discrimination |
| 0:52.3 | investigations. But in education, it's just seen as normal. |
| 0:58.0 | Which is why when Olante Douglas graduated from the University of Georgia last December, |
| 1:03.1 | he did indeed do a surprising thing when he decided to become a kindergarten teacher. |
| 1:10.0 | So my students, my little munchkins, it's about 18 of them, and they're five and six |
| 1:17.2 | that's right in the kindergarten age, your first experience with school. |
| 1:21.1 | Mr. Douglas teaches in Gwinnett County, Georgia. |
| 1:24.3 | So a lot of things I do, it's their first time ever experiencing it. So it's their first |
| 1:28.7 | time a leprechaun is coming to it. They like their school and trash in it. We spoke to Mr. |
| 1:33.5 | Douglas on St. Patrick's Day. One of his colleagues had dressed up as a leprechaun making |
| 1:38.4 | mischief all over the school. Well, one thing about me is that I love joy. I try to make my students joyful and happy. |
| 1:46.6 | So that's the energy a lot in kindergarten. The kids are always curious and happy and just joyful. |
| 1:54.3 | When I was growing up as a young student, I was the complete opposite of who I am today. |
| 2:00.9 | I was a very quiet kid. |
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