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Hi there, it's Megna here with a bonus episode in our special series Falling Behind, the Miseducation of America's boys.

The series explored the many reasons why boys are trailing girls in academic achievement.

Now, in this bonus episode, you're going to hear a powerful conversation we recorded in front of a live audience at WBUR's City Space Live Events venue.

The conversation is with Dr. Kevin Simon. He's an attending pediatric psychiatrist at Boston's Children's Hospital,

assistant professor at Harvard Medical School, and Boston's first chief behavioral health officer.

And what he has to say, though, applies to boys across the country.

Now, for those of you who heard the series, and I hope that's all of you,

you might recall that Dr. Simon appeared in our episode about mental health, but we knew he had so much more experience and expertise to share than we could fit in that one episode.

So we invited him back for this special live conversation, which we're calling

episode six. How to Talk with Boys. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. You're just

come on the show. You're ready to have a good day today? Yeah. I'm Megacharabardi. This is an on-point special series, falling behind the mis-education of America's boys.

The ways that school doesn't work for lots of boys comes with a higher penalty.

He calls it six cruel hours of our lives, you know, an acronym for school.

The data would show that we're failing them desperately.

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