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Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Fall River: Lizzie Borden's Acquittal

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

History, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.5992 Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma. The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area. Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series. Find us ⁠⁠online.⁠⁠ Support the show by joining our Black Label to support the show and unlock exclusive benefits. You can join on ⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠Apple Podcast Premium⁠⁠. Follow us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠. Join ⁠⁠Shane's Facebook Group⁠⁠. Hosted by ⁠⁠Shane Waters⁠⁠. Listen to his other crime podcast ⁠⁠Mystery Inc⁠⁠, or his history podcast ⁠⁠Hometown History⁠⁠! Our Sponsors: * Check out Kensington Publishing: https://www.kensingtonbooks.com * Check out Mood and use my code SHANE for a great deal: https://mood.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript

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0:30.0

There is no better way to experience a crime story than to do the lens of an author born

0:59.0

and brought up at the scene of the crime. Arnold R. Brown's book titled Lizzie Borden,

1:05.0

The Legend of the Truth, The Final Chapter, is oddly optimistic because it takes a different outlook on the murder.

1:12.0

Brown must have been aware that the authors before him tried to claim that they knew the ignigma of the Borden murders,

1:19.0

but could convince very few of their knowledge. There was always something missing, always something wrong,

1:25.0

no matter the proof gathered, court documents cited, and witness testimonies mentioned, nobody was ever satisfied,

1:33.0

because none of it ever led to a final answer. The question always remained, but who did it?

1:40.0

Brown tells us in his introduction that he was born and brought up in Fall River, and that Lizzie Borden had died just eight days before his second birthday.

1:49.0

He believed the mainstream story of the Borden murders was true, Lizzie was evil, and the Sunday school teacher got away with it,

1:58.0

so it wasn't until he left that little bubble and moved to Florida that his outlook changed.

2:04.0

He encountered a man from his hometown, Louis Peterson. Naturally, their conversations drifted to the Borden case, arguably the story that put their little town on the map.

2:16.0

It turned out that Louis Peterson's father-in-law, Henry Hawthorne, claimed to have met and even known the murderer.

2:23.0

Brown asked, are you referring to Lizzie, and Peterson replied, no way I'm referring to the person who actually murdered them.

2:32.0

According to Peterson, at age 89, Henry Hawthorne had written an accurate account of the murders, all in an attempt to clear his head,

2:41.0

and come to terms with reality, as death loomed over his head.

2:48.0

It was the most detailed, and by Brown's words, compelling argument they had of the case.

2:55.0

According to the Hawthorne version, some motives provided a semblance of logic to what had always been senseless acts.

3:02.0

Eventually, these motives and reasons would become too dangerous to reveal.

3:08.0

As a result, Brown felt compelled to explore these accusations.

3:13.0

He claims to have spent two years investigating the case and comparing the facts to Hawthorne's own writings.

3:19.0

He found an eerie degree of similarity.

3:22.0

We spent the last episode exploring different angles, but Hawthorne's account does not incriminate any of the usual suspects.

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