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🗓️ 7 November 2025
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| 0:15.7 | You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. |
| 0:21.2 | Hey, shortwavers, Emily Kwong here. |
| 0:23.6 | Now, depending on where you live in the U.S., you may be enjoying some fall foliage. |
| 0:27.8 | You know, the result of colder days, trees preparing for winter, and in some, their chlorophyll, |
| 0:33.5 | the green pigment is breaking down. |
| 0:35.0 | And instead of green, we're seeing these amazing colors, |
| 0:38.1 | yellow, orange, and red. Colors you might tuck into a home decoration. Along with some of those |
| 0:43.9 | mutant squash, you get at the farmer's market, the really warty ones. Hey, Nell. Hey. That's NPR's Nell, |
| 0:50.3 | Greenfield Boyce. And Nell, from what I understand, you have been getting really into autumn |
| 0:54.8 | leaves lately. Well, some of them, some of them, particularly the red ones. I love the red ones. |
| 1:00.6 | They're so beautiful. People like red leaves. And, you know, when I met up with this biologist |
| 1:05.3 | named Nikki Hughes in North Carolina, she told me, my dad always was talking about his quest for the perfect red leaf. |
| 1:13.3 | Respect. So it's been this lifetime thing, but she's on her own quest now, and that is just to |
| 1:19.7 | understand red leaves. Why red leaves? Why not yellow? So yellow is in the leaves all along. It's kind of hiding in there, right? And so you mentioned |
| 1:30.3 | chlorophyll breaking down in the fall. And when that happens, it's because the tree wants to |
| 1:36.4 | recover some key nutrients like nitrogen. Nitrogen is really precious to a plant. It's needed for |
| 1:42.1 | everything from photosynthesis to making proteins and DNA. And so, |
| 1:45.8 | you know, the tree is going dormant kind of in winter, but it doesn't want to lose that nitrogen. |
| 1:50.8 | It wants to hang on to it. So the chlorophyll gets busted up. The green is going away. And this |
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