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Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times

Fakers: A Top-Secret Tale of Phantoms and Forgeries on the Cold War Disinformation Front Line (456)

Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times

Ian Sanders

History, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.8865 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

I delve into the fascinating world of Cold War propaganda with historian Rory Cormac, author of a new book “Fakers - 'A Top Secret Tale of Phantoms and Forgeries on the Disinformation Front Line'. The episode uncovers the clandestine operations carried out by the Information Research Department (IRD), a little-known unit of the British Foreign Office that specialised in covert propaganda during the Cold War. Rory shares insights into the recent declassification of 8,000 files, which revealed the astonishing operational details of the IRD. From bizarre forgeries to the creation of phantom organisations, the episode highlights the absurdity and complexity of Cold War espionage. As Rory explains, the IRD was not just about planting stories in the press; they were deeply involved in black operations, often working closely with MI6 to achieve their goals. One of the most striking examples discussed is the IRD's attempts to undermine Egyptian leader Nasser during the Yemen Civil War. Rory illustrates how the British government crafted fake documents and propaganda to expose Nasser's use of chemical weapons, all while navigating the murky waters of international relations and credibility. The episode also explores the colourful characters that populated the IRD, including journalists, refugees, and writers who brought their unique backgrounds to the table. Rory's anecdotes about their lives and the social dynamics within the department add a rich layer of narrative to the historical context. As the discussion unfolds, Rory draws parallels between the propaganda tactics of the Cold War and modern-day disinformation strategies. He argues that the principles of intelligence laundering and the manipulation of public perception remain alarmingly relevant today. Buy the book here and support the podcast https://amzn.to/4nssdPl Episode extras ⁠https://coldwarconversations.com/episode456 Help me preserve Cold War history via a simple monthly donation, You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and receive a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank-you, and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we also welcome one-off tips via the same link. Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://coldwarconversations.com/store/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CONTINUE  THE COLD WAR CONVERSATION o BlueSky ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bsky.app/profile/coldwarpod.bsky.social⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Threads ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@coldwarconversations⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Twitter/X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Facebook ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Youtube ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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One of the things I found really interesting is these phantom organisations that the IRD are producing,

1:06.9

which have no supporters whatsoever, but give the impression there's this army of people there.

1:15.5

I delve into the fascinating world of Cold War propaganda with historian Rory Cormack,

1:21.9

author of a new book Fakers, a top secret tale of phantoms and forgeries on the disinformation front line.

1:29.0

The episode uncovered the clandestine operations carried out by the Information Research Bureau,

1:34.2

the IRD, a little-known unit of the British Foreign Office that specialized in covert propaganda during the Cold War.

1:41.4

Rory shares insights from the recent declassification of 8,000 files which revealed

1:46.2

the astonishing operational details of the IRD, from bizarre forgeries to the creation of

1:51.9

phantom organisations. The episode highlights the absurdity and complexity of Cold War espionage.

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