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Culture Study Podcast

Fake, Real, Imagined, & Projected CELEBRITY FEUDS!!!

Culture Study Podcast

Culture Study Podcast

Society & Culture, Arts

4.5789 Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

I know a lot about historic Hollywood feuds. I could do an entire episode just on the magazine covers featuring Elizabeth Taylor, Eddie Fisher, and Debbie Reynolds circa 1959. But to do any episode on Celebrity Feuds right — particularly one that airs just days before Kendrick Lamar performs at the Super Bowl — I knew I needed a different sort of celebrity feud expert. When Joel Anderson, host of three blockbuster seasons of Slow Burn (including a canonical one on Biggie + Tupac), agreed to come on the show, I legitimately let out a little scream of delight. He has so much knowledge, context, and perspective; this episode is a dream come true.**Note: This episode was recorded before the Grammys, and we didn’t correctly predict Beyonce’s AOTY win nor Kendrick Lamar’s FIVE awards for “Not Like Us.”**Show Notes:If you’re unfamiliar with Joel’s work and want an intro, I can’t recommend the first episode of the Clarence Thomas season of Slow Burn highly enough. I’ve listened to it so many times (which is VERY rare for me with podcasts); it’s such a journalistic coup. The entire season is a marvel.But also — and pertinent to this discussion — check out the season of Slow Burn on Biggie and TupacListen to Joel over at The Ringer on The Press BoxI strongly recommend (re)watching the video for “Not Like Us” (the lyrics auto-play)A solid overview of the Kendrick/Drake feud from GQOne of the first reaction Tiktoks I remember seeing:Easter Eggs from the video for “Not Like Us”The ridiculous Cosmo compilation of “Celebrity Feuds From the Year You Were Born” I keep referencingJoel references “The Fight’s Over, Joe,” a classic Sports Illustrated article on the feud between Muhammad Ali and Joe FrazierListen to the Elizabeth Taylor episode of You Must Remember ThisThis is the unfathomable movie where Liz and Debbie raz Eddie FisherIf you really want to know about Jane Fonda’s “feud” with her father, the Fonda section of Richard Dyer’s Stars is unrivaledI personally learned about 50 Cent’s beefs from this episode of 60 Songs That Explain the ‘90s: The 2000sWe’re currently looking for your questions for future episodes about:HISTORICAL ROMANCE (will neither confirm nor deny that we have a co-host whose confirmation made Melody faint)By popular request, all things fan fictionDark AcademiaHow cookbooks get madeSpiritual care for non-religious peopleAnything you need advice or want musings on for the AAA segment — WE REALLY NEED MORE!! You can ask about anything, it’s literally the name of the segment!You can submit them (and ideas for future eps) hereFor today’s discussion: What celebrity feud did we not talk about? Or what layer of celebrity feuds did we miss?

Transcript

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0:00.0

And Baca got a weird case why I see around certified lover boys certified pedophiles

0:05.9

Wap, Wap, Wap, Wap.

0:07.4

That fuck him up.

0:08.3

Wap, Wop, Wap.

0:09.8

I'm gonna do my stuff.

0:10.8

Why you trolling like a bitch, ain't you tired?

0:13.1

Trying to strike a chord and it's probably A minor.

0:15.4

They not like us. They not like us. They not like us.

0:22.6

They're not like us.

0:23.8

They're not like us.

0:24.9

This is the Culture Study podcast, and I'm Ann Helen Peterson.

0:28.3

And I'm Joel Anderson.

0:29.8

I am a co-host of the press box podcast at The Ringer and a staff writer for The Ringer.

0:36.1

I said The Ringer already.

0:37.1

So there we go.

0:38.4

I am so happy to have a pro here today, just a podcast pro, someone who's work I've admired for so long.

0:45.8

And also someone who knows a lot about celebrity feuds for various reasons that we'll get into over the course of this podcast.

0:55.6

But the first thing that we're going to talk about, this is our peg for this podcast, is a little bit about a feud that's

1:00.9

going to be very front-center in the next week. So let's get to our first listener question,

1:06.0

because it will set up this whole episode. It's from Robin. My question is about the Drake, Kendrick Lamar

1:11.5

celebrity feud. I would love to know more about how celebrities profit from their feuds,

1:16.7

making albums, even winning awards. This happened with Kanye and Taylor Swift as well. She

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