'FAKE' CHRISTIAN? Conservative Leader Calls Out SPLC's Incoming CEO | Brad Dacus

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🗓️ 19 June 2026

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Brad Dacus, founder of the Pacific Justice Institute, joins the Daily Signal's Tyler O'Neil. Dacus is challenging Ryan Haygood, the incoming CEO of the Southern Poverty Law Center, to a debate on whether PJI is a "hate group." Haygood quotes scripture in his LinkedIn biography, but Dacus considers it "disingenuous" for a leader of a nonprofit that demonizes traditional Christian beliefs to tout his Christian convictions. "It's really ironic he's calling himself a Christian and yet he goes out of his way to attack benevolent, loving Christian organizations because of their Christian beliefs and Christian worldview," Dacus said. "You can't declare yourself Christian on Sunday morning and go to church and then on Monday, be the enemy of Christians, Christian organizations and ministries because of their Christian biblical worldview. It's not real, it's fake, it's disingenuous." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:42.2	Brad Dacus with the Pacific Justice Institute. He is officially, according to the Southern Poverty Law
0:50.2	Center, an anti-LGB plus hate group. But this is a very interesting thing because the SPLC has an incoming president and CEO who
1:02.5	claims himself to be Christian.
1:05.0	And so Brad has an offer for this incoming CEO.
1:09.3	Great to have you, Brad.
1:10.8	And I'll just let you make your
1:12.9	big announcement. You bet, Tyler, thank you for the opportunity. Now, we at Pacific Justice Institute,
1:18.7	we believe in letting truths come to the surface and let things fall where they may. And that's what
1:24.2	I said in the letter to the new president of SPLC, that we want to sit down,
1:31.3	have an open, raw, unedited interview. We'll make that available to everyone. And so if they have a
1:40.0	case against Pacific Justice Institute, bring it on. But if they can't prove up their
1:45.8	accusations that were a, quote, hate group, then let that also resonate as well. The bottom
1:52.6	line is this organization, Tyler, as you well know, is a very, it's a racket. It's a money-making
1:59.5	racket, and what they sell is hate and division,
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