Faith Over Rulebooks: Centering Justice and Community in the Church (Exile Series)

Voxology

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2021

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

How the American Church's focus on right beliefs and institutional preservation has neglected the transformative power of love, justice, and community as revealed through Jesus. In this deeply reflective and wide-ranging conversation, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and special guest Hannah Erie (Mike's daughter) explore the frustrations young people have with modern Christianity, especially its entanglements with politics, legalism, and exclusion. Hannah shares her "horrendous happenings" as a 16-year-old navigating faith in a world where Christian identity often feels synonymous with judgment rather than love.

As the discussion deepens, Mike and Tim move into a profound examination of how churches often claim doctrinal orthodoxy while embodying behavioral heresy—failing to reflect the communal justice, humility, and reconciliation commanded by Scripture. With insights from Ephesians and the work of theologians like Tim Gombis and Richard Hays, this episode challenges listeners to reconsider what faithful biblical interpretation looks like and how theology should always lead to fruit that mirrors the character of Jesus.

Key Takeaways: • Gen Z and the Church – Why the church fails to appeal to young people and how legalism and political identity have distorted its mission. • Faithfulness vs. Fruitfulness – How orthodox belief statements can mask systems of injustice, abuse, and exclusion within churches. • The Bible's Purpose – Reframing the Bible as a tool to shape a community of justice, peace, and embodied love—not just intellectual assent. • Justice is the Gospel – Exploring how reconciliation across race, economics, and ideology is central to the cosmic victory of Christ. • Community as Theology – Why the true mark of biblical faithfulness is found in the fruit of a church's communal life, not just its teaching.

Guest Highlights: Hannah Erie – Mike's teenage daughter brings a candid and fresh voice to the conversation, sharing her views as a thoughtful Gen Z observer wrestling with what she sees in and around modern Christianity.

Resources Mentioned: • Ephesians 2 – Discussing shalom, unity, and the church as temple. • Richard Hays – The Moral Vision of the New Testament • Tim Gombis – Faith Improvised Podcast & works on Ephesians and Romans • Josh Butler – Skeletons in God's Closet – Book club discussion launching in micro-community • Dallas Willard's Concept of "Joyful Non-Compliance" • Acts 6 & Galatians 2 – Biblical foundations for structural justice as core to the gospel • Unbelievable Podcast – Episode with Justin Brierley & Mark Driscoll • "Self-Segregation" Article – High school class discussion on social media echo chambers

Be part of this rich and multi-layered conversation as Mike and Tim push past dogma toward the dangerous and beautiful heart of a Jesus-shaped church. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow us on social media to join the journey of questioning, reimagining, and embodying the mission of Jesus.

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As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to hello@voxpodcast.com, and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.

Our Merch Store! ETSY

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Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify

Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon

The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio

Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre

Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Voxology podcast. I know it is not the voice you want to hear.
0:08.7	You want to hear the Seth voice, but today I've got a special guest in studio. And it's not Seth.
0:13.6	It's the next best thing. This is Hannah Erie. Hannah, say hello.
0:19.2	Hello, everybody. I don't know that Hannah has been featured on the podcast recently.
0:24.7	Hannah is, she is 16, she's a deep thinker,
0:30.2	and what else would we say about you?
0:33.9	Like if people will be like, hey, tell me about yourself, Hannah.
0:37.0	What would you want them to know?
0:40.5	I don't know.
0:41.6	Okay.
0:41.9	You love tanning.
0:43.4	I do.
0:44.1	You do love tanning.
0:44.8	And I'm ginger, so it's kind of hard.
0:46.7	But are you ginger?
0:47.8	I mean, you're working hard to lighten that.
0:49.9	Yeah.
0:50.6	But it's still, I always get sunbur and not tan.
0:53.4	Okay. Yeah, but it's still, I always get sunburnt and not tan, no matter how much I dye my hair.
0:55.3	That's true, that's true.
0:56.5	We do, we're working to get her blonde.
1:00.7	Hannah, tell us a little bit about how great it is to have me as your father.
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