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Seriously...

Faith, Lies and Conversion Therapy

Seriously...

BBC

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.1885 Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Despite the overwhelming evidence that human sexuality is innate and immutable over time, proponents of conversion 'therapies' have sought to change or 'fix' queer peoples' sexuality for much of the 20th century. Presenter Caitlin Benedict speaks with scientists, historians and survivors to uncover the heinous practices that LGBT+ people were subjected to with the guise of changing their sexuality, including lobotomies and chemical castration. Caitlin examines how adherents of these 'therapies' adapted to the improving legal and social recognition for homosexuals by modifying conversion practices to embrace Freudian psychoanalytic techniques. Evangelical churches took up the baton left by the discredited 'treatments' in the effort to suppress or 'repair' the sexualities of their LGBT+ congregation, and Caitlin asks what faith groups are doing today to eliminate these practices within their communities.

During the summer of 2020, Prime minister Boris Johnson called conversion therapy 'absolutely abhorrent' and promised to 'bring forward plans to ban it'. Caitlin speaks with one of the people responsible for a recent ban on change and suppression practices in the Australian state of Victoria, earlier this year, and seeks to understand how easy a ban will be to implement.

And how will any ban on conversion practices affect the trans community? Caitlin speaks with the MP Alicia Kearns about why she thinks any bill to enact a ban must protect trans people while ensuring that psychotherapists are still able to provide affirmative support for their patients.

Presenter: Caitlin Benedict (they/them) Producer: Rory Galloway (he/him)

Transcript

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0:00.0

This was an impregnable fortress. The only way you get out was in a wooden box.

0:05.0

The controversial maximum security prison impossible to escape from.

0:09.0

And one of the duties of a political prisoner is the escape.

0:12.0

The IRA inmates who found a way. of a political prisoner is the escape.

0:12.5

The IRA inmates who found a way.

0:14.5

I'm Carlo Gableer and I'll be navigating a path

0:19.5

through the disturbing inside story of the biggest jailbreak in British and Irish history.

0:25.0

The narrative that they want is that this is a big achievement by them.

0:28.5

Escape from the maze, listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:35.0

BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, Music Radio Podcasts.

0:39.0

Welcome to Seriously from BBC Radio 4.

0:42.0

I'm Vanessa Kasule.

0:44.0

If you love unique documentaries, this is the podcast for you.

0:48.0

Each week you'll find two new episodes to discover.

0:51.0

Next up, something captivating, enlightening and seriously good.

0:57.0

The line that I was given all the time was you just have to have faith, you just have to have faith, immerse yourself in the Bible same sex attraction as

1:06.4

a sin and it's something that has to be sorted. The fact that it wasn't working I

1:10.6

hated everything about myself.

1:14.0

I genuinely believed that I was evil or that it was something fundamentally wrong with me.

1:22.0

It may surprise you, but in the UK today there are still organisations and people who will

1:27.8

offer you therapy, prayer and treatments to change or fix your sexuality and gender identity.

1:34.0

But this might be changing soon.

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