Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. It's a wallbuilder show. Thanks for joining us.

Interesting topic today. We're always taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective.

And we often talk about being true biblical citizens where we don't take the Bible into only certain areas of the culture, but we take it into every area of the culture, no matter what God's called you to. Rick Green here with David and Tim Barton. And David, I remember years ago you even tell him you talked to a kid about if God had called him to make video games, then go make good video games that have good values.

Well, the arts and entertainment and those types of things, we don't typically think of as mission fields, but they actually are.

Yeah, they absolutely are, and they were at the time of the founding fathers.

It's amazing how many founding fathers were involved in the arts to some degree, including signers of the Declaration

like Francis Hopkinson, who was quite a musician, invented musical instruments, just so many

areas the founding fathers were skilled in.

A number of them played musical instruments were quite good in classical music and the

arts.

So they were really kind of the well-rounded person back then.

You know, they could do all sorts of stuff, whether it was military or whether they needed

to be intellectual or whether they needed to be fine arts or anything else.

It's amazing how well-rounded they were.

And we just haven't been in that same place for a while.

It's like everybody has to specialize in something now. And it's really kind of hard to get that

renaissance kind of person anymore. Well, and even on the literary side, guys, doing things that

have, you know, aren't just a nonfiction book, but could be creative. Or even our guest today,

gathering prayers of people across the country and publishing that so that people can see it. So it's

just kind of cool to see that we're almost leaving no stone unturn. And our guest today actually

does collect art and has a gallery in Houston. so very involved in that area. And it's

art that reflects our faith. Yeah, one of the things that we had the privilege of doing,

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