[Faith] Episode 68: Kristin Kobes Du Mez - A Modern Church History of Toxic Masculinity (REISSUE)

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The Bible for Normal People

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🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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In this episode of Faith For Normal People, Pete and Jared revisit a conversation with Kristin Kobes Du Mez, author of the bestselling book Jesus and John Wayne. The conversation explores the history of “toxic” masculinity in both the church and American pop culture, and how Christians in 2025 can be part of the resistance efforts against harmful cultural structures. This is a reissue of The Bible for Normal People Episode 170 from June 2021. Show Notes → https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/episode-68-kristin-kobes-du-mez-a-church-history-of-toxic-masculinity-reissue/ Watch on YouTube → https://youtu.be/OAjNnqgLkeA ********** This episode is sponsored by Aura Frames. For a limited time, visit AuraFrames.com and get $45 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Mat frames, named #1 by Wirecutter, by using promo code NORMALPEOPLE at checkout. This exclusive Black Friday Cyber Monday deal is their best of the year, so order now before it ends! Support the show by mentioning us at checkout! Terms and conditions apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to Faith for Normal People, the only other God-ordained podcast on the internet.
0:04.3	I'm Pete Ends.
0:05.0	And I'm Jared Baez.
0:05.8	This is your last chance to pay what you can for my November class.
0:20.3	Back to the beginning, how to ask
0:21.8	better questions of Genesis. Yes, please don't miss it. Pete will walk us through why Genesis
0:26.2	was written, what's really going on in those strange early stories, and how the later parts
0:30.4	of Genesis help us ask better questions. If you've ever wondered what Genesis is actually
0:34.7	trying to do or why it matters today, this is a great place to
0:38.0	start. The class is happening live on Wednesday, November 19th from 8 to 9.30 p.m. Eastern
0:43.3	time, followed by an exclusive Society of Normal People Q&A. Learn more and sign up at
0:48.7	the Bible for Normal People.com, run slash Genesis class. Today on Faith for Normal People,
0:53.6	we're revisiting a conversation we have with Kristen Kobaz-Dumay back
0:57.5	in June of 2021.
0:59.4	Yep, Kristen is a historian, writer, speaker, and professor of history at Calvin University.
1:04.0	She's also the author of Jesus and John Wayne, how white evangelicals corrupted a faith and
1:08.8	fractured a nation.
1:10.0	Don't forget to stay tuned at the end of
1:11.6	the episode for our quiet time, where we'll reflect on the conversation and how it relates to us
1:16.5	four years later in 2025. All right, folks, let's dive in. So much of the inspiration for
1:22.6	ideals of Christian manhood were drawn from popular culture, not from deep biblical exegesis.
1:30.3	Again, the fear was real in the hearts of followers, but it was actively stoked by religious leaders, by evangelical men,
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