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The Bible For Normal People

[Faith] Episode 67: Liz Charlotte Grant - The Gift of an Unclear Text

The Bible For Normal People

The Bible for Normal People

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.73.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode of Faith for Normal People, Pete is joined by Liz Charlotte Grant to talk about using the Bible as a springboard for curiosity, inquiry, conversation, and community. This episode explores how art, imagination, and the practice of midrash can open up new ways of engaging scripture when literal readings don’t speak to what we see in the world today. Show Notes → https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/episode-67-liz-charlotte-grant-the-gift-of-an-unclear-text/  Watch this episode on YouTube → https://youtu.be/BK3xfTiHDRg ********** This episode is sponsored by Greenlight. Greenlight is a debit card and money app made for families: parents can send money to their kids and keep an eye on kids’ spending and saving, while kids and teens build money confidence and lifelong financial literacy skills. Sign up for Greenlight today at greenlight.com/normalpeople. ********** This episode is brought to you by Skylight. The Skylight Calendar is here to keep your family organized with a digital display that syncs with your existing calendars, making it effortless to track events, appointments, and reminders in one easy-to-see place. Skylight is offering our listeners $30 off their 15 inch Calendars by going to SkylightCal.com/BIBLE.  ********** This episode is brought to you by Brooklyn Bedding. Take the Brooklyn Bedding Sleep Quiz and find your perfect match in under 2 minutes. Go to brooklynbedding.com and use our promo code BIBLE at checkout to get 30% off sitewide. This offer is not available anywhere else. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to Faith for Normal People, the only other God-ordained podcast on the internet.

0:04.3

I'm Pete Ends.

0:05.0

And I'm Jared Baez.

0:05.8

And I'm Jared Baez.

0:19.6

And we can understand why. The Bible is retelling of the rise. Second Chronicles have ruined more attempts to read the Bible in a year than any other force on earth.

0:21.7

And we can understand why. The Bible is retelling of the rise of the monarchy in the 10th century BCE to the end of the Babylonian exile and 539 BCE covers much of the same ground as 1st and 2nd Samuel and 1st and 2nd Kings.

0:35.7

Gone is the battle between David and Goliath.

0:38.1

Gone is a showdown between Elijah and the prophets of Bail. And King Manasseh, whose wickedness

0:43.4

provoked the Babylonian exile? In First and Second Chronicles, he's not that bad. In place of

0:50.1

high drama scenes featuring highly questionable but undeniably compelling heroes, First and Second

0:56.2

Chronicles gives us genealogies, and extensive descriptions of temple building and a God who

1:02.9

gives second chances. If you've ever wanted to rewrite bits of the Bible for the times you live

1:08.2

in, you are not alone. The writers of First and Second Chronicles

1:12.3

have been there too. Set aside everything you think you know about First and Second Chronicles

1:17.2

and join Dr. Aaron Higashi as he shows us why the most boring books of the Bible aren't actually

1:22.6

that boring. That they are in fact among the most bold and daring books in the entire Bible.

1:30.0

Out October 28th, get a free chapter download right now at the Bible for normalpeople.com

1:35.2

front slash chronicles.

1:38.6

Ever wonder what parts of the Bible we're supposed to follow in which we aren't?

1:43.0

Well, this is the last call to pay what you

1:45.4

can for our October class. The Bible is not a rulebook with our very own Jared bias. Pay what you can

1:51.4

means you can pay as little as one dollar or as much as you want for the class. Absolutely.

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