[Faith] Episode 64: Drew G. I. Hart & Jarrod McKenna - Creative Resistance & the Joy of Nonviolence

The Bible For Normal People

The Bible for Normal People

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.7 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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In this episode of Faith for Normal People, Pete and Jared sit down with Drew G. I. Hart and Jarrod McKenna to talk about rethinking power and nonviolence. Through practices inspired by Anabaptism, the Black church, and the teachings of Jesus, Drew and Jarrod explore how Christians can contribute to social change through their own nonviolent resistance as individuals and communities. Show Notes → https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/episode-64-drew-g-i-hart-jarrod-mckenna-creative-resistance-and-the-joy-of-nonviolence/ Watch this episode on YouTube → https://youtu.be/fVXrUO1R7Y8 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to Faith for Normal People, the only other God-ordained podcast on the internet.
0:04.3	I'm Pete Ends.
0:05.0	And I'm Jared Baez.
0:05.8	Hey, folks, quick announcement for you before we get into today's episode.
0:20.2	Our September class is called
0:21.9	Shaped by Suffering How Trauma Impacts the Bible and its readers and it's taught by Alexiana Fry.
0:28.8	Now, trauma isn't just a buzzword. It's woven into our bodies, our histories, and the systems
0:34.6	that we live in. And it's also woven into the Bible. Stories of war, exile, oppression, and grief reflect deep wounds that shaped entire communities,
0:44.3	and they still shape how we read the Bible today.
0:47.3	This class will introduce you to trauma-informed interpretation, a way of approaching scripture
0:52.3	that takes seriously both the pain in the text and the pain we bring as readers.
0:57.0	And we'll explore questions like, what even is trauma and how is it misunderstood?
1:03.0	How does being trauma informed change the way we read the Bible?
1:07.0	And why does this lens matter for both the past and the present? The live class and
1:13.3	Q&A is happening on Saturday, September 27th from noon to 1.30 p.m. Eastern Time with an
1:19.7	exclusive Q&A session for SONPB members right after. As always, the classes pay what you can
1:26.3	until the class ends, and then it will cost
1:28.5	$25. To learn more and sign up, head to the Bible for normal people.com front slash trauma.
1:35.5	See you there. Today on Faith for Normal People, we're talking about nonviolence with Drew Hart
1:41.1	and Jared McKenna. Yes, the Reverend Dr. Drew G.I. Hart is an associate
1:45.4	professor of theology at Messiah University, where he directs the Thriving Together
1:49.5	Congregations for Racial Justice Program. He's the author of several books, including
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