Faith and Disorientation: Stages of Spiritual Growth and Worship in the Psalms (Psalm Series)

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Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 30 January 2017

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

How the raw honesty of the Psalms offers a roadmap for navigating spiritual maturity, emotional turmoil, and the disruptive journey of faith. Mike Erre and Andy dive into Walter Brueggemann's framework for categorizing Psalms—orientation, disorientation, and reorientation—and explore how this mirrors the spiritual stages articulated by M. Scott Peck. This episode is a heartfelt journey through belief, suffering, and the surprising grace found in facing doubt and darkness head-on.

Key Takeaways: • Understanding Brueggemann's Psalm Categories – Orientation celebrates settled, clear faith; disorientation confronts chaos, lament, and abandonment; reorientation emerges through surprise, hope, and restored relationship. • From Stage 2 to Stage 4 – Mapping Peck's spiritual stages onto the Psalms highlights the often messy, nonlinear progression of maturing in faith. • The Power of Lament – Why the church must rediscover the lost tradition of lament in a culture that idolizes positivity and avoids pain. • Reframing Worship – How the modern church often leans too heavily on orientation and neglects the disorientation most people are actually experiencing. • Honesty in Church Culture – What it means to make churches "the most honest places in town" and spiritually form people through suffering rather than in spite of it.

Notable Quotes: • "Prayer is not a place to be good. It's a place to be honest." • "The Bible is way more honest than Christians are about suffering." • "The goal isn't to get back to orientation—it's to move forward into a faith that has survived disorientation."

Resources Mentioned: • Walter Brueggemann's work on the Psalms • Matthew Soerens – World Relief Immigration Proposal • M. Scott Peck – Stages of Spiritual Development • Psalm 145 – Example of Orientation • Psalm 88 – Example of Disorientation • Psalm 40 – Example of Reorientation • Book of Psalms – Bible Gateway: Psalms

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0:00.0	Hello, Internet.
0:13.0	Mike and Andy here, World Vox headquarters, Brea, California.
0:16.4	Just drying out from the atmospheric river over the last several days.
0:21.6	It has been the drought is officially over in Northern California,
0:25.6	and we're just waiting for some snow to melt for it to be over.
0:28.6	So I'm now watering my yard again and taking long showers.
0:33.6	I've watched my car 10 times.
0:34.6	Yes, I've been saving it up. So we hope you're well.
0:38.9	We hope the new year is off to a great start.
0:42.4	The politics going on in our country now is absolutely insane.
0:49.5	Since we've last talked, we had the inauguration, right, and the women's march, and the wall
0:57.6	has now been decreed.
0:59.9	Yep.
1:00.9	And I remember when we talk about immigration, just this isn't the topic for today, but
1:07.1	I remember a friend of mine, oh man, it's probably a decade ago when I was in my teens,
1:15.4	he said, you know, it seems like if you read the Bible and take it all seriously,
1:22.4	doesn't it seem like you should err on the side of being pro immigration?
1:26.9	I mean, it's so, it's so overwhelmingly
1:29.9	like, love your neighbor as yourself, welcome those in need, take care of the widow and the
1:36.4	orphan. I mean, it's so, and then in the Old Testament law, I mean, just all of the accommodations
1:42.5	that Israel was to make for the alien and the orphan and the widow. I mean, just all of the accommodations that Israel was to make for the alien and the
1:45.9	orphan and the widow. I mean, it was unbelievable. And his point was just, wouldn't you think
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