Hey, you guys, welcome to the Heidi St. John podcast. Today on the show, I'm honored to share a powerful

conversation with my friend Carrie Oberbrenner. He's an author, an entrepreneur, and a man who's

thought deeply about the intersection of faith, technology, and the future that every single one of us

is getting ready to step into. We cover a lot of ground in this interview

today. AI is one of the things we wanted to talk about, and it is changing the way that we live,

that we work, and even the way that we think. But Carrie is going to remind us that the church

doesn't need to sit on the sidelines, wringing its hands. Instead, God is calling his people to lead with

discernment and wisdom and courage. You're going to hear Carrie talk about the importance of

authentic leadership, what suffering has taught him about purpose and why entrepreneurship matters

for Christians and why safety cannot be our highest pursuit. You guys have heard me say this

many times before that one of

my prayers has always been, Lord, help me not to live to be safe. Carrie and I also dug into the

dangers of artificial intimacy, which we're seeing a rise in among young people today, especially for

our kids and the essential truth that believers are called to engage with the culture not to

retreat from it. This is a timely and hope-filled conversation and I think you're really going to

enjoy it. Welcome to the Heidi St. John podcast. Stick around. I think you're going to be

encouraged. So Carrie, my friend, welcome back to the show.

Great to see you.

It is great to be here.

Well, there's, okay, so there's a lot going on in college campuses right now.

And I got to tell you, the same thing that I want to talk to you about that's happening in college campuses is affecting homeschooling and parents who students are in high school.

It's the advent of AI and how quickly it is evolving and growing.

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