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Failures of State: How Britain made the same mistake twice (Pt 2)

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🗓️ 9 March 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

In the second of three episodes this week, the Sunday Times Insight team explains how Britain unleashed a second disastrous wave of the virus despite repeated warnings from experts.

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Guests: 

- Jonathan Calvert, Insight Editor, The Sunday Times.

- George Arbuthnott, Deputy Insight Editor, The Sunday Times.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Links:

- Failures of State: The Inside Story of Britain’s Battle with Coronavirus by Jonathan Calvert and George Arbuthnott.

- Audiobook of Failures of State.

- ‘Rishi Sunak was the main person responsible for Covid’s second wave’, The Times.

Clips used: BBC, ITV, Sky News, Euronews, Unherd, CNN.

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0:00.0

Yesterday, in part one of what's been a year long investigation, the Sunday Times Insight

0:08.8

team explained how, at the start of the pandemic, the government wasted five weeks sleepwalking

0:16.7

into disaster.

0:18.6

The whole policy of mitigation and herd immunity that the government was pursuing in March

0:24.1

was seriously flawed.

0:27.2

1.5 million infections had spread across the country before Boris Johnson announced

0:33.2

the first lockdown.

0:35.4

The Prime Minister himself became seriously ill with COVID.

0:40.0

On leaving hospital, he promised to do everything he could to avoid a second peak.

0:46.5

So why did it happen all over again?

0:49.6

His provocation was actually growing exponentially just like the virus.

0:55.0

All listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times, I'm Manvine

0:59.9

Rana.

1:00.9

Today, failures of state, part two, how Britain made the same mistake twice.

1:15.4

By April 2020, the first wave of the virus was running rampant, streets were empty, hospitals

1:24.5

were full, but we were told the UK had avoided the worst of it.

1:31.2

Seems like these from Italy wouldn't be repeated here in Britain.

1:35.6

They're fighting a war here and they're losing.

1:38.7

Wherever you go, people are on gurneys, encoders and meeting rooms, they're everywhere.

1:44.8

Both Matt, Hancock and the NHS would later claim that everybody had got the treatment

1:50.4

that they required, which is not what we see in the statistics.

1:54.5

The NHS has not, at any point, been overwhelmed by coronavirus.

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