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Facts versus F-wits: how to fight the Alt Reich

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Pod Save the UK

News, News Commentary, Government

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Artificial intelligence will be “mainlined into the veins” of the nation, Prime Minister Keir Starmer has declared, with a multibillion-pound investment and huge public rollout. Amid bond market chaos and a falling pound, the Government is pinning its hopes for growth on the AI revolution - what could possibly go wrong?

To unpick the technogobledigook with Nish and Coco is technology journalist Chris Stokel-Walker. They drill into the Government's AI action plan and the potential pitfalls of this silver bullet for society, jobs and the environment. 

With the far right surging across the world - it’s important to know when you can call a fascist a fascist. No one knows this better than Nafeez Ahmed, investigative journalist and author of “Alt Reich: The Network War to Destroy the West from Within”. He breaks down the scale of the threat we are facing and how we can fight it.

And with so much Billionaire BS flying about, we debut “Facts versus Fuckwits”, debunking some prime fuckwittery from a painfully out-of-touch Tony Blair.

 

Useful Links

“Alt-Reich: The Network War to Destroy the West from Within” by Nafeez Ahmed

https://www.waterstones.com/book/alt-reich/nafeez-ahmed//9781916754140

Mental Health Services:

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/seeking-help-for-a-mental-health-problem/where-to-start/

https://www.samaritans.org/

https://www.youngminds.org.uk/

https://www.rethink.org/advice-and-information/

 

Guests

Chris Stokel-Walker

Nafeez Ahmed

 

Audio Credits

Sky News

Jimmy’s Jobs for the Future Podcast

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Cocoa Khan. And I'm Nish Kumar on today's show. Can AI save the UK?

0:08.4

So I've just asked CHAPGT and apparently it can. AI can revitalise the UK by driving economic growth,

0:15.0

improving public services and advancing sustainability through innovation, efficiency and strategic

0:19.4

investment in technology, digital

0:21.0

skills and arsenic. I made that last bit up. Just labour the point that you can't trust them.

0:26.3

You are not given enough credit to the quality of your voice work. Your range of accents is

0:32.1

beyond compare. Someone actually had to say to me recently, you should just be careful about the range

0:36.6

of actions that you do

0:37.7

because you might start to offend people. So I think I'm safe with this one.

0:42.6

Well, write in and let us know, American listeners. How happy were you with that accent?

0:46.6

To find out what this means for the United Kingdom, we're joined by technology journalist Chris Stokel Walker.

0:51.6

And with the far right surging all over the world, we'll also be chatting to systems theorist

0:55.6

and investigative journalist Nefiz Ahmed about how to fight it.

0:59.5

And later, we'll be sharing your thoughts

1:01.3

on Elon Musk's unwelcome interventions into British politics.

1:06.1

AI isn't something sort of of the future over the next hill.

1:13.9

It's the present. It's already here.

1:23.3

In Britain, changing lives, a chance to turbocharge growth, create the companies of the future and radically improve our public services. Prime Minister Kirstamaahma there announcing his AI gambit to the media.

1:31.1

So what's the fuss all about?

1:33.1

The government is calling it the AI Opportunities Action Plan.

1:36.7

And as we heard there, Stama is hoping artificial intelligence will turbocharge growth,

1:41.0

which is a marked evolution from last year's rhetoric,

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