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From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media. I'm Bob Garfield. And I'm Brooke Gladstone.

This Wednesday, after a long... Less than 48 hours away from the next debate with the Republican candidate.

Long.

Countdown to showdown just 14 hours away.

Long.

Getting ready. Getting excited.

Two hours, 29 minutes.

Two seconds to go.

Build up. CNN hosted the second round of the GOP primary debates.

As moderator Jake Tapper explained at the outset, this wasn't going to be one of those

boring debates where the candidates only speak to the moderator and remain, you know, civil.

This was going to be real.

A true debate with candidates addressing each other in areas

where they differ, where they disagree on policy, on politics, on leadership. The candidates

were more than happy to oblige.

He gave me money was Donald Trump. He wanted casino gambling in Florida. I didn't want. Yes,

you did. Totally false. You wanted it and you didn't get it because I was opposed to casino gambling before,

during, and after.

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