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The Mona Charen Show

Fact-Checking Zohran Mamdani

The Mona Charen Show

The Bulwark

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

AEI's Sadanand Dhume joins the podcast to discuss Zohran Mamdani's ideological origins, why government stores are not a fresh, new idea, Indian democracy, poverty, capitalism, and how Bangladesh went its own way.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Mona Charin Show. So glad you could join us today. I'm delighted to welcome

0:10.1

Sadan Dume, who is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, Wall Street Journal columnist,

0:16.9

and a specialist on Asia. This is a topic that hasn't gotten much attention lately,

0:24.1

and so I'm hoping we can get some enlightenment on what is happening in that critical part of the world.

0:32.1

But I'd like to begin with Sadnan's own personal story.

0:38.2

So can you tell us where you were born,

0:42.0

what your influences were growing up?

0:46.1

I was born in New Delhi, India,

0:49.8

and I moved around a little bit when I was young

0:53.1

because my father was an Indian diplomat.

0:55.0

So I was in Washington, D.C. for three years. I was in kindergarten here.

1:00.0

Then I went back to India. I spent some time in Indonesia.

1:04.0

But most of my, you know, most of my early life was in India.

1:10.0

And then I came to the US in the mid-1990s to go to grad school.

1:13.0

I went to Columbia Journalism School.

1:16.1

After that, I went to Princeton and I studied public policy there at what used to be called

1:21.7

the Woodrow Wilson School.

1:23.7

And then I went back to Asia, worked as a foreign correspondent for a few years, wrote a book about the rise of radical Islam in Indonesia, and then found my way back.

1:33.2

And I've been back in the U.S. since 2003, and I've been in Washington since 2008.

1:40.7

Excellent. Thank you.

1:43.2

So one of the things you've written about over the course of many years that I took note of was you did a piece, I think it was in 2015, about why Indian immigrants do so well in the United States and what that says about their country of origin.

2:04.1

So I don't know if you remember this piece, but you've written so many, of course.

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