Dave Melter here. I sat down with the one and only sugar

A Leonard and I had the most personal, intimate, and emotional

conversation about our fathers, about abuse, and about drug and alcohol

use. I actually shared a secret that I never thought I would to the public.

Join me and Sugar Ray for all of that and more here on the playbook.

I've almost feel guilty because I think I've left so much content on the table because you're such a wonderful person but I'm here with the champ

Sugar A Leonard and what a treat it is because I'm not going to talk too much about boxing. I really want to get to the conversations that we've

been having about life. And so let me take you a little bit farther back. I know one

story about you that you actually had a lie about how old you were so you could

begin your amateur boxing career.

There's a certain boldness about that.

You know, when you're 16 or 17 to lie about your age so you can about that

when you're 16 or 17 to lie about your age so you can compete in a world platform.

Where did that boldness come from, that confidence, come from?

I was always optimistic, determined, focus. I never, if you told me I

couldn't achieve, I would achieve. Going back to 1972 Olympic trials I you know

16 years old and I said I was 17 so I figured it was just a little a little white lie and didn't think much of it but it proved to be true because

or fact because I wasn't as experienced at that age so I had lost in the quarterfinals.

Okay and you know moving through your career you had many different, you know, opponents, many different weight classes.

I think you're the first person to win five different weight classes.

You've won over $100 million in purses.

But you really don't think of yourself as the most talented boxer, the strongest

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