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Unholier Than Thou

Facing Death and Seeing Miracles

Unholier Than Thou

Unholier Than Thou

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.7903 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Phil introduces the podcast by talking about one of the reasons he began re-evaluating his relationship with God: finding love. He’ll talk to his fiancé, Dr. Darien Sutton, who happens to be an emergency room doctor, battling on the front lines of the COVID outbreak, while still maintaining a strong belief in the power of faith and the situations where he’s witnessed miracles.



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0:00.0

Welcome to the first episode of Unholier than Now. I'm Philip Picardy, your host.

0:11.6

You might know me from my work at Teen Vogue where I was the chief

0:17.6

content officer. More recently, you may know me from being the editor-in-chief of Out magazine where I covered all things LGBTQ.

0:24.8

Right now you may be just as surprised as I am to hear that I am hosting a

0:32.4

podcast that is about faith and spirituality.

0:35.0

I actually wanted to create unholyer than now because I myself was having a crisis of faith.

0:42.0

I was and have always been a proud

0:46.0

homosexual. Even when I was a kid I was probably one of the gayest people you could

0:51.7

ever meet and I basically always wore who I was

0:56.8

immediately on my sleeve and for any kid that's probably a good thing right but for my

1:01.7

family it was a little bit more complicated. My dad was and

1:05.2

is extremely Catholic, and it was a complicated upbringing. When I eventually came out of the

1:10.1

closet, I remember telling my dad that I was no longer going to get confirmed and for those of you who don't know

1:16.9

Confirmation is something that you do as a teenager in the Catholic faith where you basically declare that you are committing yourself to the faith and I knew that I could not in good faith

1:28.0

declare myself or declare any allegiance to Pope John Paul the second because he was homophobic and in fact because the entire Catholic

1:35.3

church is homophobic. So I walked away from the faith and so that kind of brings me to today. You know, I have had the same relationship with God for the past 15 years that I did when I was 14.

1:48.0

And that is that I don't know who God is.

1:52.0

What I do know is that I am a newly engaged man and I know that before I get married

2:01.2

I want to figure this shit out and reassess my values and what I stood

2:07.2

for and when I thought a lot about that I realized that I had to go all the way back to the beginning to figure out how I could move forward.

2:17.0

So for today, it feels logical that we interviewed the person who for me has most embodied what God means and that's my

2:28.3

fiance and I know that that sounds maybe a little bit trite and and maybe a little gross but bear with me. I have not been

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