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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

Facebook's Uncertain Future

Uncanny Valley | WIRED

WIRED

Technology

4.1570 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Facebook has once again found itself in the hot seat. Things heated up for the company after a whistleblower shared thousands of pages of Facebook internal documents with The Wall Street Journal and Congress last month. The documents reveal that the company had researched how its apps affect the people who use them—and that Facebook often chooses to put its business interests ahead of the wellbeing of its users.

This week on Gadget Lab, we talk with WIRED politics writer Gilad Edelman about the overall impact of the whistleblower’s revelations, whether anything will change internally at Facebook, and how plausible it is that even big, sweeping changes to the platform here in the US could fix Facebook’s issues overseas. 

Show Notes: 

Read The Wall Street Journal’s Facebook Files series. Read Gilad’s story about the Facebook whistleblower. He also wrote about why Facebook is not too big to moderate. Here’s Gilad’s story about Section 230 (and also our episode of this show about it). And here’s how you can permanently delete your Facebook account.

Recommendations: 

Gilad recommends listening to CDs. Mike recommends the segment from Last Week Tonight about misinformation. Lauren recommends swiping right on dates (the fruit, that is) and also Kara Swisher’s Sway podcast, particularly the episodes with Monica Lewinsky and Matthew McConaughey.

Gilad Edelman can be found on Twitter @GiladEdelman. Lauren Goode is @LaurenGoode. Michael Calore is @snackfight. Bling the main hotline at @GadgetLab. The show is produced by Boone Ashworth (@booneashworth). Our theme music is by Solar Keys.

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0:00.0

Mike.

0:01.0

Lauren.

0:02.0

Mike, have you ever considered just totally deleting your Facebook?

0:05.0

Many, many times.

0:07.0

You?

0:08.0

Have you done it?

0:09.0

Uh, once.

0:10.0

But then it turns out that I didn't actually delete it because you try to delete it and

0:14.0

they won't let you.

0:15.0

Yeah, I've thought about it, but then I would still use other apps like WhatsApp and Instagram.

0:19.0

So it's just Facebook kind of owns us.

0:21.4

Yes, absolutely.

0:22.9

Should they, though?

0:24.3

I think we can talk about that today.

0:26.0

All right, let's do it.

0:31.6

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Gadget Lab.

0:35.1

I'm Lauren Good. I'm a senior writer at Wired.

0:38.5

And I'm Michael Colori, a senior editor at Wired. We're also joined in studio, in person, in the flesh, by Wired

0:45.8

politics writer Galad Edelman. Galad, welcome to the Bay and welcome to the Wired studio.

0:50.5

Thanks for having me. Wow, we all sound so good, even though we're all wearing masks.

0:56.5

Well, we're all vaccinated, so that's really good. I'm confident that we're going to be

1:01.6

okay today and we're doing this for the sake of bringing our listeners a great show. So today

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