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True Crime Historian

Face-To-Face With Pretty Boy Floyd

True Crime Historian

Richard O Jones

True Crime, Documentary, Arts, Society & Culture, Performing Arts

4.4729 Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The Oklahoma Phantom Terror

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Episode 471 finds us in 1932, a hill country reporter named Vivian Brown did what no one else ever managed — she sat down with Pretty Boy Floyd and got him talking. Two years later, a teletype changed everything. The only interview the phantom bandit ever gave. Tonight, we hear the story from her point of view.

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0:00.0

Oklahoma News Building, Oklahoma City

0:07.0

October 22nd, 1934.

0:12.0

I was writing about cotton when the teletype killed Pretty Boy Floyd.

0:18.0

A Tuesday afternoon, I had a half-finished piece on the fall harvest in the roller

0:22.7

and a cup of cold coffee at my elbow, and I was trying to make bail counts sound like news when the

0:28.0

wire machine across the room started chattering. Not the usual lazy rhythm. This was fast. Urgent.

0:35.2

A staccato burst that made heads turn before anyone read a word. I walked over.

0:39.5

The paper spooled out in a thin ribbon, and the first two words came through in capitals.

0:44.3

Floyd dead. The rest followed in fragments, killed in a cornfield. East Liverpool, Ohio, federal

0:52.3

agents, shot running. The room came alive. Reporters reaching over each

0:57.0

other for the wire, editors hollering from doorways, somebody already on the telephone to the

1:01.9

city desk. The whole building shifted into that electric pitch you get when a big story breaks

1:06.8

and everybody wants to touch it first. I stood still. I was the only person in that building who had something the rest of them didn't.

1:13.6

Two years earlier, on a November afternoon in a Peacain Grove in eastern Oklahoma,

1:18.6

I had sat across from Charles Arthur Floyd and watched him cock his foot on a car bumper

1:23.6

and talk about his life like a man with nowhere particular to be. He was grinning that day.

1:29.7

He pointed at a thicket and said there ought to be good quail hunting over there. He told me

1:34.5

things he had never told any reporter and never would again, because I was the only one who

1:39.5

ever got to him. I had carried those words in a shorthand notebook hidden inside a manuscript for two years.

1:46.0

Couldn't use them. Couldn't speak them. The world wouldn't allow it while the man was alive

1:51.5

and the government was hunting him. The teletype was still chattering. I walked back to my desk

1:57.0

and pulled the cotton harvest out of the roller. I rolled in a fresh sheet. I didn't write one article. I began writing a series.

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