This is exactly how not to do it.

This will go into training as being comedically dumb.

This is the worst PR since on 9-11, a Labour spad says,

today is a terrific day to bury bad news and ended her entire career,

that of her colleagues and that of her boss.

It is utterly idiotic.

Smashing Security, Episode 455.

Face off, Metas Glasses, and America's Internet Kill Switch,

with Graham Cluelly and special guest James Ball.

Hello, hello, and welcome to Smashing Security episode 455.

My name's Graham Cluelly, and I'm James Ball.

James, welcome to the show.

First time on Smashing Security, although I've been following your work for many a long year. For those people who don't know you, and shame on them

if they don't know James Ball, what are you? And what do you do? I'm a journalist that covers

technology and politics. So I write on politics for the new world, who are in

political editor, and I write on tech all over the place. And I think I've been quoting you for

15 years or so now. So, gosh, a long time. Yeah, I've been around the block a bit. I think I first met you

when you were at The Guardian, possibly. Yes, the early 2010,ero. A busy time for internet privacy and lots of

big stories way back then, weren't there? There were. We were doing the Edward Snowden leaks at

that time, which is one of those nice stories where most things you do in journalism, you know,

it's chip paper. It's not even chip paper now because it's all digital. But the Snowden stuff still feels relevant nearly, you know, we're 13 years later now and that one still comes up. So that's decent.

Yeah. And what have you been most recently working on, James? I am finishing off a book about conspiracy theories and the internet. And I'm actually, I'm studying for a PhD on how we

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