Face it, Keir, it’s over. But you could still save the nation
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 9 February 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
The Matts digest the events of the past 24 hours. Will Morgan McSweeney’s departure delay or hasten the existential crisis facing Keir Starmer? Does Starmer’s plea bargain over Peter Mandelson’s appointment wash? How could he take a bold personal decision and salvage his legacy? And of all the problematic contenders circling overhead, who could achieve mission barely-possible: to keep Nigel Farage out of Downing Street? It’s a special bonus edition of the podcast today. Enjoy.
Produced by Matt Withers
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| 1:16.7 | today. Now, enjoy the rest of the podcast. |
| 1:22.2 | There is an inevitability, I think, that the Kea-S-Darmer Morgan McSweeney project is over and it's just a matter of time now. |
| 1:32.3 | This guy, Keir-Stama, can't beat Nigel Farage. He can't. He's not up to it, he's winged and probably a lot worse. |
| 1:43.3 | Giving Keir-Stama an opportunity to salvage a legacy, he should resign his seat and let |
| 1:49.9 | Burnham run. |
| 1:55.6 | Hello and happy Monday morning. |
| 1:58.4 | Happy Monday, one and all. |
| 2:00.0 | A rare, I'm not sure we've ever done a Monday before, have we might... |
| 2:02.9 | We might have, but I can't remember if we have, anyway. |
| 2:06.6 | But this is in the new protocol of doing extra ones |
| 2:09.9 | when shit is hitting the fan, which... |
| 2:12.0 | Yeah, and there's been much fan activity recently. |
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