I do miss putting a magazine together. I miss working with photographers on editorial

stories, but I don't feel it's relevant. I don't feel it's the proper tool to communicate

fashion today. From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

For 17 years, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative people about

what they knew, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and

working on. On this episode, Fabian Barone talks about his career as an art director and

about the decline of fashion magazines. I mean, it was all my clients. We don't talk

about the page that's going to go involved. We talk about the Instagram post.

There's another podcast you might enjoy. It's called Am I Normal from the TED Audio Collective.

It's back with a new mini-series all about the stories behind the statistics. What does

it don't mean? In a place where more than three-quarters of people between ages 18 and 35 live

with their parents. What defines joy when you live in one of the top-ranked countries

for happiness? Here are from the people that make up every interesting data point. Listen

to Am I Normal? Wherever you get your podcasts.

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if you could take just a few minutes to respond. Please visit survey.prx.org slash Design Matters

to take the survey today. That's survey.prx.org slash Design Matters. Thanks.

Creative Director is a catch-all job description. In the case of Fabian Barone, it doesn't catch

all that he has done in his illustrious career. He's designed some of the world's biggest

and most prestigious publications. He's designed books and perfume bottles and furniture.

He's shot and directed films. He's created some of the most memorable ad campaigns of the

last 40 years for clients, including Calvin Klein and Dior and Blanziaga. And he's created

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