Oh, hello, I'm Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that treats popular culture

is the most important kind of culture because it is the one that is keeping us from flying

off this fucking planet. Back in the before times, Troubled Waters would pit two teams of

comedians against each other in a pop culture battle royale. But now, teaming up with another person

who is not in your quarantine

pod is possibly lethal, definitely more frowned upon than putting Zendaya in your spaceworm

movie, and then she's only in it for 15 minutes. So for now, it is one comic against another.

And to win this battle, each of our comics will be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical

skills, the great comebacks they've been saving in their notes app for the last year and a half

to earn the coveted Troubled Waters title, Pundit Emeritus.

That title automatically gives a person's opinion on whether or not Dune actually needs to be seen

in a theater when it's right there in Heroku, more weight than a civilians.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. Let's meet our teams. That's all the Dune talk there's going to be.

I haven't seen it.

I probably won't. Our first contestant is a writer. She co-created The Daily Show. I have fond memories of watching

her on various MTV and Comedy Central comedy specials in the in the 90s. It is a thrill to have the

host of feminist Buzz Kills live with us, Liz Winstead. Hello. Hello.

How are you? I think I'm all right. You think you're okay. Yeah, I love that you think that

pop culture is saving us when I feel like it's just another nail in the coffin. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Explain. You know, I mean, when we look at how we've, we've milked all of our charmingness.

There's like three shows that everyone thinks are charming. Shits Creek, Ted Lassau, and the Great British Bakeoff.

Everything else is just pitting humans against other humans for whatever is left of their dignity to just strip them down to just, like, naked and afraid seems like

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