F-35 Test Pilot Breaks Down China's J-36, CCA, & AI in the Cockpit | Tucker "Cinco" Hamilton
The Afterburn Podcast
John "Rain" Waters
4.9 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 April 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Zinko, good to see you. Thanks for joining me on the podcast. Yeah, Rayne. It's great to be back with you, man. It's been a while. Yeah, round two. I mean, I think it's been several years. You were early on. So, yeah, obviously, your story is out there on the Afterburn podcast, and you've been on a few other ones. Today, I'm excited to talk because one, you have a book coming out, unlocking the last 20% that's coming out here very shortly. And then just |
| 0:21.6 | with your expertise when it comes to AI being a test pilot, the planes you've flown, the things |
| 0:27.2 | you've done, there's been a lot that's transpired in the aviation world over the last couple |
| 0:31.9 | years. So I think we have a few things to talk about. And I'm curious to pick your brain on a few |
| 0:35.8 | of those. Yeah, no, absolutely. Glad to be with you. |
| 0:39.7 | Glad to share my biased perspective on life and aviation and what have you. |
| 0:46.1 | But yeah, I think you're absolutely right. |
| 0:48.2 | There is just so much change that has happened and continued changes on the horizon. |
| 0:56.3 | Maybe it would be a good point start just from a catch-up standpoint from, I believe last time we spoke, you were starting to dabble into |
| 1:03.0 | the artificial intelligence space, specifically with the United States Air Force. So could you |
| 1:08.0 | give me kind of a quick recap of what you've been doing over the last |
| 1:12.6 | couple years and how you fit into this puzzle piece that is now the surge in artificial |
| 1:17.7 | intelligence and aviation? Yeah, no, absolutely. I joined you back when I was the director of |
| 1:24.3 | the MIT and Department of the Air Force AI Accelerator. So our organization was |
| 1:30.9 | trying to help shape dual-use technology, dual-use research in partnership with MIT and MIT-Lincoln |
| 1:37.7 | Labs to make sure that we're able to focus on some of the equities that the department would |
| 1:42.7 | care about, so Air Force and Space Force. |
| 1:45.1 | From there, I had the opportunity to go down to Eglon Air Force Base, and I became the 96 Operations Group Commander. |
| 1:52.3 | So that base is a developmental test base primarily. |
| 1:56.5 | There's actually like nine wings that are on that installation. |
| 1:59.4 | It's a humongous installation. |
| 2:01.5 | But the test wing owns the base. |
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